I definitely have to be skinny to pole dance. But I’m not so skinny when I’m out there dancing. It’s really just what I have to have to be confident and feel good when I’m out there. And there are a lot of skinny girls out there that I think would probably be good pole dancers, but I’m not so skinny that I wouldn’t have that competitive edge.
Do girls who pole dance make jokes at you?

Not at all. I think most people that are into dancing want to look good and have good personalities. If you’re good at an activity, it’s going to mean a lot because you have nothing to prove.
In the beginning of our relationship, you said you weren’t afraid of the pole.
It’s kind of hard to be afraid of something I did my entire life. I had a huge fear of it because of the work I did. Once I did pole, I kind of fell into it because I was interested in that and wanted to do that. All the girls who’ve been around me really liked it, but it’s not something that I’m nervous about.
Do you have a special pole dance routine?
I do some really crazy moves — a headstand, a 360, do cartwheels, do 360s.
Do you have a good pole dance routine, other people?
Yeah. I’m kind of obsessed with it.
Do you like pole dance?
Oh God, yeah, I like it a lot. It’s fun to see and see them do. I’ve never seen it and now I’m seeing these videos and I’m like, “Wow, this is crazy!” The music is cool, but I also love dancing and I love this feeling where you’re out there.
What do the dancers at the pole dance studios at the gym in New York do when they get together?
They usually put on that same routine. It’s different every time, but there is the same basic moves on the same song, and it all keeps it fresh. It’s like we’re all the same person anyway — we’re all in the same world and we should just do this routine. And then we look like robots. It’s a thing where you’re like, I was supposed to do this and I did not do this. You don’t feel that way. You see these girls, they’re all just like, ‘Oh my God, I’m totally
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